Returner – DivX Version (Normal Quality), iPod/iPhone Version
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IMDB rating: 6.70 Plot: After an alien invasion threatens to annihilate the human race, a young Japanese girl, named Milly (Anne Suzuki), travels back in time from 2084 to October 2002, and enlists the reluctant aid of skilled Tokyo gunman, named Miyamoto (Takeshi Kaneshiro), to discover and prevent the start of the war. However, trouble ensues when the two protagonists are forced to deal with a Japanese mafia boss, named Mizoguchi (Goro Kishitani), who is somehow involved in the start of the war by keeping the first alien spaceship and its alien pilot captive, while our two heroes race against the clock to find a way to stop the oncoming destruction from the vengeance-seeking alien invasion fleet on its way to Earth. |
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Actors: Kaneshiro Takeshi,Kishitani Goro,Murata Mitsuru,Iida Kisuke,Shimizu Kazuya,Harrington Dean,Zhao Xiaoqun,Takahashi Masaya,Ali Ahmad,Andres Ari,Baron Byron,Action,Adventure,Sci-Fi,
ball hits punt returner on 5 yd line, rolls into endzone and recovered by returner-safety or touchback? why?
happened 11/7/09 in the psu vs. osu football game
everyone says safety…except the officials in the game on saturday….they called a touchback…because of all the booing, I couldn’t hear the refs explanation….did anyone else hear it?
safety
T A | Nov 09, 2009
If the ball touched the returner, and it ends up in the endzone, and the ball is called dead in the endzone (by either a member of the kicking team touching it or by a member of the returning team being taken to the ground in the endzone while having it in possession), then it is ruled a safety. If the returner is able to recover what is known as the "muffed punt," and advance out of the endzone, then the ball will still be in play, until ruled dead.
[ ] | Nov 09, 2009
Safety if it rolled all the way out of the endzone…The Returner was the last one to touch the ball, it hit him first before going into his endzone. It’s like the QB having to start at his own one yard line and getting sacked in his endzone. He is still holding on to the ball so it’s a safety. Similar here, except he didn’t field it in the endzone, and the ball didn’t hit the endzone first either. If he hasn’t touched it, and it rolled out of the endzone, it would’ve been a touchback. If he touched it first, and it rolled out of the endzone, safety. Also, let’s say he did touch it it did NOT roll off the field and sat in the endzone…it’s still his ball, it is still in the field of play until someone touches it, that would result in a TD if the opposing team grabs it, a safety if he grabs it and is tackled in his endzone. If he grabs it and runs upfield for whatever game it is, then it’s neither.
Miami LandSharks | Nov 09, 2009
Safety. It’s the same as if he caught it, and ran into the endzone. When the ball touches the returner, it’s up for grabs. That’s why the punt team can’t retain possession if the return team doesn’t touch it.
Flip | Nov 09, 2009
It’s a safety plain and simple
Ryan | Nov 09, 2009
It’s a safety. The ball became live inbounds so it can’t legally be a touchback. It’s the same situation if an offense started on its own 1 yard line and the runningback was tackled in the end zone.
originata | Nov 09, 2009
I believe in pro ball it is a touchdown; I do know it is a touchback in HS play as the kick has not ended til someone gains possession and I also believe NCAA has the same rule as HS.
EDIT — I guess I have to clarify as I read everyone else’s answers.
In the NFL a punt is live in the endzone at all times. Even if the punt is touched but still moving the ball is a live ball. Since the returner touched it in the field of play it allows the kicking team a chance to possess the ball legally and if in the end zone, it would be a touchdown.
In NCAA and Federation (HS) rules a scrimmage kick is dead when it breaks the plane of the goalline. The kick also is not ended until a member of either team gains possession. Merely being touched by the ball does not mean the kicking team can score on the play as it does not apply a new force to the ball to cause the ball to enter the end zone. Thus, it is a kick into the end zone and by rule, a touchback.
david w | Nov 09, 2009
This is the NFL rule:
If a punted ball is initially touched by a member of the receiving team – either inadvertently or intentionally, including a blocked punt – it’s a live ball and either team can legally recover it. And if it then goes into the end zone behind the returner, the disposition of the ball is then dependent as to the returning team player’s intent in the referee’s mind.
For example, let’s say the ball brushes against a returner and rolls on its own into the end zone. If the kicking team recovers it in the end zone, it’s a touchdown. But, if the receiving team recovers it or it rolls out of the end zone (back or sides), it’s a touchback and they get the ball on the 20.
Now, let’s say the ball came to rest outside the end zone, and someone on the returning team kicked or swatted the ball into the end zone. If the kicking team recovers the ball, it’s a touchdown. If the return team recovers the ball in the end zone or the ball rolls out of the end zone, the referee can rule it a safety. This is because the intent of the return player’s action was to either avoid having very bad field position (like recovering the ball on the 2 yard line) or prevent the kicking team from recovering the ball for a touchdown.
After the play, the referees would likely huddle and decide what apeared to be the return player’s intent. If it appeared that the ball would have gone into the end zone by its own momentum – or that momentum was not intentionally caused by the return team (he tried to pick up the ball and couldn’t get a handle on it, allowing it to roll into the end zone) – the officials should call it a touchback. But, if the officials rule that the return player intentionally caused the ball to roll into the end zone to prevent bad field position or a kicking team touchdown, they should call it a safety.
Paul in San Diego | Nov 09, 2009
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